I have a classic L1 with 2 B1s & An L1 Compact. If I purchase a packlite can I then power the B1’s with the Compact? There must be a way. A proud Bose owner since 1971!
Hello Daniel Pray,
Thank you for joining the Bose Portable PA Community.
Great question. It sounds like you may have read our article Stereo Mixer to Mono L1®
Daniel Pray posted:When using a mixer is some of the quality lost using just the left output?
You should not lose sound quality using just the left output.
Most small stereo mixers allow you to direct the inputs to one side or the other (two sides of the mixer).
- When you pan an input up the middle, you are using both sides. The two outputs typically go to two powered loudspeakers.
- When you pan all your inputs hard LEFT and then use the LEFT output, you are using one side of the mixer and in this situation, you are connecting that to a single powered loudspeaker. The quality should be just as good as using both sides of the mixer
The exception: If the mixer has stereo inputs (one channel with two inputs), panning hard to one side means you will lose the other side of the stereo pair.
See Stereo Mixer to Mono L1® and Mixer Left Output Only??
If you need more information, please reply with a link to the owners guide for your mixer.
Thank you,
Bose Pro Community Admin
Can you elaborate a little on the pan left please. When using a Behringer 1202B mixer I'm getting feedback on the mic when the mixer is on "0" and the Bose is half way, straight up noon on the dial. The guitar's sound ok.
Hi Kensco,
first of all let me welcome you to the Forum.
"I have an L1 compact with a Mackie fx10v3 and am looking for the best way to set up vocals with an sm58 beta and backing tracks with either mini disc or iPod"
The easiest way to connect would be to connect the microphone to the microphone channel (channel 1) and the backing track player to the 1/8" jack or RCA connectors of channel 2.
The advantage here is that you wouldn't need to transport the mixer and would have the microphone preset.
The disadvantages if they can be called that would be: The need for proximity to the Compact for adjusting the relative volumes of microphone and playback on the fly, and also no chance of reverb/delay on the microphone.
Using the Mackie, you could try out one or two things. you do however have to take one thing into account. The Compact is a mono device. Using the 1/8" or RCA inputs, the Compact mixes a stereo signal to a mono compatible signal which means that the compact lets you hear both channels but in mono.
Microphone into channel 1 of the Mackie. Pan to one side e.g. left.
Player into channels 3 4 of the Mackie. Pan to the same side as the Microphone e.g. left.
If you've panned to the left, connect the left Main Out to channel 2 of the Compact and set the Tonematch switch to Line. Set the volume of Compact Channel 2 to 12 o' clock and control the overall volume with the Main Level control on the Mackie.
I can see that the Mackie has an 1/8" line input on channels 9/10 but as I can't see a mono switch for this I don't know how to get the signal converted to mono. That's why I've opted for channels 3 4 panned to one side.
The advantage of this set-up is that you've got the controls at your fingertips and can be set up away from the Compact.
I'm also including a link to the Wiki which ST brought to life for the community many years ago. This may also be of help.
https://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/index.php?title=L1®_Compact
You can scroll down and find explanations of virtually everything you need to know about the Compact.
Has this helped in any way?
Tony
Hi Padraic,
My first thought is one Bose Compact will not provide the same " punch" as two 802's.
There are other questions that need to be answered to determine which system or how many might be needed to suit your purpose.
Share with us more information about the band. How many open mics, what the mics are used for, what instruments are you amplifying, how many at same time, size of typical audience, are they listening or dancing, or other?
O..
Hi Oldghm
Thanks for replying to me
So with regards to the band we have accordion (AKG condenser microphone), fiddle (pick-up) flute and bodhran (open mic sm58) Guitar (pick up) and Vocals ( Open mic sm 58 ). Normally 4 or 5 channels going at the same time. ie. for instrumental music accordion/fiddle/flute/guitar all going at the same time. For the Vocal tracks that we do normally guitar vocals bodhran and maybe one other instrument.
As regards to venues its mostly bars where you get a bit of everything, ie some people are listening, some people are talking and some are attempting to dance 😀 ( on average the bars we play are approx 100 meters squared) and the numbers would normally be around 100 people. we also do wedding ceremonies ( approx 100/200 people) in hotels function rooms which would be bigger rooms but with a quieter audience.
Hope this sheds a little light
Thanks
Padraic
Hi Padraic,
OK, you should know that I am a big believer in using the L1 systems as originally conceived and designed, one per performer. I love the independent control, the localization, being able to utilize as main and monitor, etc.
That being said, many use the systems, with bands, with great success.
I feel certain that one Compact will not provide what you need, Two might work if you put them out front where you can maximize volume without feedback concerns. Three live mics simultaneously along with an instrument or two is probably a lot to ask for and still take advantage of placing behind for monitoring while still covering a large room.
A single Model II with B2 would probably provide sufficient coverage and volume, but you still have the placement and feedback issues to work out.
To take full advantage of what the L1 has to offer and to approximate the output of your current system I would recommend at least two L1s systems
The powered mixer can be used if you have line level outputs. You can not use the mixer's built in power amp.
I would want to hear the accordion through the Compact to make sure the bottom end is sufficient, before committing to purchase. Of course most retailers, and Bose, offer a try out, grace period, that gives ample time to test systems to insure they meet your needs.
Is there a retail outlet where you can try out the various systems. I have no problem recommending the L1 systems for individual or duo use, when it comes to more than two players in a single system or a band through Compacts I have to suggest that you find a way to try the system(s) and make your final decision based on what you learn.
I know there are threads here that have information posted by bands that use the L1. Since the format change, things are a little more difficult to find. Try the search feature for more information. I'll take a look too, and if I find something will come back with a link.
O..
check the threads at this link.
Hello David,
Please see my reply to you in your other discussion
Duplicate discussion.
Please see: L1® Compact with Bass Module
This discussion is now closed.