LR Baggs Anthem SL Guitar Pickup / TC Helicon Play Acoustic

Hi Folks

I've been a long time lurker on here, but now I have finally ordered my L1 Model 2 with B2 sub and T1 I feel able to make my first post! Hello to all...

My question is whether there is a specific pre-set on the T1 to for a LR Baggs Anthem SL pickup? Or if not, can anybody point the way to an alternative pre-set that would work well?

I will also be using this system with a TC Helicon Play Acoustic set up - keen to hear of anybody's experience in this area!

Cheers, Andy

 

Hi Andy,

Welcome to the forum. I "lurked" for several years here too before raising my ugly head and becoming a member. (I've just noticed in my profile that I've been here on the forum for 3 years come Tuesday. Seems longer). It's good to have you on board here.

"I have finally ordered my L1 Model 2 with B2 sub and T1"

Congratulations! If you've not already played through on before, make sure you fasten your seatbelt. I would expect you to have a feeling of being "blown away" by the system. Not because of the overpowering volume because it isn't deafening. More because of the way the sound is all around you and makes you feel a part of it, which of course you are. Any people in your audiences who've never heard an L1 live will should be more than impressed (some even "gobsmacked") by the sound.

"My question is whether there is a specific pre-set on the T1 to for a LR Baggs Anthem SL pickup?"

The simple answer to this is, unfortunately "No there isn't". But this does not by any means whatsoever that you can't get a really good sound out of the Anthem through the system. I've been using the Anthem since the first year it came out. I was one of the first (if not the first) users here in Germany. I've never regretted buying it and am always complimented on my acoustic guitar sound when using it.

"Or if not, can anybody point the way to an alternative pre-set that would work well?"

I tend to use the "Steel String with Cond" preset and use the zEQ to make it sound the way I want it to. This is what I've done for my own for my own solo program as I don't have any conflicts with other instruments. Don't be afraid to to try out anything and everything regarding Presets. There's no right or wrong here. If you find something you quite like but it's not exactly what you're looking for then you can "tweak" it using the zEQ. If the preset is for any type of acoustic guitar (which it probably will be) then the zEQ will react in this frequency area.

You may also want to try out the Flat, A Guitar zEQ preset. Here's a couple of screenshots:

What you may find helpful (and this is a suggestion I often make as I do it myself) is to record your trials with an audio recorder (if you have one) saying what preset you're trying (for future reference) and have a listen to it. It can sometimes be a great help. It can also help when setting up at a location. Place the audio recorder somewhere in the room. You can either listen to it through headphones or through the L1 (that way you can hear yourself how it really sounds in the room). This can help to get the volume levels of the different instruments/vocals right. Once you've got the mix right, you can control the overall volume with the master volume control.

When you've got settings you really like, you can save them as a scene.

There's a video of how to do this. Here's a link.

https://www.bosepro.community/...ine-scenes#lastReply

Just click on it and you should land there in a new window.

In case you're interested, there are also other T1 tutorial videos which may help you get started. If you follow this link it should take you to the right place. She videos may help you to shrug off any apprehensions you may have when first using a digital mixer (the T1 belongs in this category).

Just one quick mention regarding this "I will also be using this system with a TC Helicon Play Acoustic set up - keen to hear of anybody's experience in this area!" Don't use effects EQ's from the Play Acoustic and the T1 simultaneously (i.e. EQ from one or the other, reverb etc from one or the other. Doing both at the same time can lead to feedback susceptibility and/or mushy/unclear sound. There are several threads which actually do cover this topic. At the moment I've no more time and must dash.

I'll leave it at that for now Andy. I've given you a couple of things to chew on which I hope van help you in some way. As I've already said, don't be afraid to try out different presets. Whatever sounds good to you probably is good (no matter what the name of the preset is).

Tony

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Andy,

I gig a lot with an L1 Compact & also use an L1 Model 2 with the B2 & Tonematch for bigger gigs. I also use the Play Acoustic mainly for the harmonies, but don't use the guitar effects and it sounds fantastic. I experimented a bit with the Play Acoustic & T1 guitar effects separately and together & found they were best used separately....either the PA, or the T1. Most of the time I prefer to just use a Chorus pedal at the end of the chain for a bit of shimmer and a touch of Reverb on the T1. I really like the ability to turn off the effects on each channel. It lets you introduce some outside effects without conflicting with the T1 effects.

I have set up various presets just like Tony explained for my various guitars and it's so easy to switch presets on the fly if you use several instruments. I use mainly 2 which utilize the Lyric and 2 others which use the M80 & the full Anthem. I had to experiment a bit before I found the settings I liked, but once I did, I saved them as scenes with my vocals.

kirk

Firstly, thanks Tony & Kirk for your very helpful replies.

I have certainly taken on board the EQ comments (either on the PA or the T1 - not both...!)

I have read somewhere online that other people have had excellent results just taking a blended mono output of guitar and vocals from the PA straight into a flat channel on the T1 - have you tried this?

(My thinking is that I would have better control over the overall sound if I had a seperate channel for the voice and guitar).

Cheers, Andy

 

I've never run the PA into the Bose, but I dial in the sound I want on the Bose and then run a line out to the PA. That allows me to use the Bose for a Stage monitor and the PA just sets the EQ flat to accept the Bose signal. You can choose to set your signal out on the Bose through the T1 to pre, or post.

Kirk

Kirk

I think we may be at cross purposes here?? When I used the acronym "PA" I meant the Play Acoustic....!

Cheers, Andy

Yes, sorry about that, I did misunderstand. I've never run a mono signal, I've always split guitar and vocals. The one thing I don't like about the PA is that the guitar effects are global and it's difficult to change them on the fly. With the T1 & the mic stand adaptor it's real easy to adjust guitar effects between songs.

Kirk

Hi Kirk

Actually, with the latest firmware for the Play Acoustic it is now possible to store different guitar effects for every preset, so the guitar sound is no longer global.

Check here for all of the details:

http://support.tc-helicon.com/...save-guitar-presets-

Andy

Hi Andy,

That's fantastic news. That was the only thing I disliked about the Play Acoustic. I really appreciate the link and will see about updating my firmware in the next few days.

Merry Christmas,  Kirk

I just hooked up my L1 II, B2, T1 system, and tried my Gibson Songwriter w/LR Baggs Anthem. There's a lot of handling noise with it, so I'll try your suggestion with the other EQ preset. My Takamine P7 sounds quite nice, but a little less shimmery than through my old Mackie system. I've got some tweaking to do for sure.