I have an upcoming gig that is presenting a challenge. I will be playing outside with the model 2 , B2, T1 then they would like sound run indoors. I would like to run Bose master out into my Peavy 8600 powered mixer to push my Peavy Speakers in the other area.
I tried running from both pre and post Master settings into an input channel on Peavey. I have tried a couple different cords such as 1/4 TS speaker cable and end up with lots of noise and little sound. I ran the same speaker cable to an input on my computer recording interface and got a nice clean signal to record with.
Any suggestions appreciated. Not sure if I am using correct cable for this application.
Hi Bernie,
Is this your mixer?
If so, it looks like you should be able to use a ¼ inch jack Tip-Ring-Sleeve cable (not speaker cable) 
and connect
T1 Master Output 
to
¼ inch jack Tip-Ring-Sleeve input on Channels 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,
NOT channel 8.
Channels 1-7 are ¼ inch jack Tip-Ring-Sleeve balanced inputs. This should give you the best possible connection.
For reference see page 16 of the Peavey 8600D manual.
You could also use a ¼ inch jack Tip-Sleeve cable, but the Tip-Ring-Sleeve cable will give you a balanced connection, and that’s preferable.
ST
Hi Bernie Thompson,
quote:I tried running from both pre and post Master settings into an input channel on Peavey. I have tried a couple different cords such as 1/4 TS speaker cable and end up with lots of noise and little sound. I ran the same speaker cable to an input on my computer recording interface and got a nice clean signal to record with.
What sort of “noise” do you mean? Do you mean a “humming/buzzing” sound around 50/60 Hz (depending on where you live), or do you mean a loud "hissing sound?
What input are you using on the Peavey? Coming out of the Master Out on the T1 you should really be using the line input as it’s a line signal coming out of the T1.
The PAD button should not normally be depressed as it would be reducing the signal by 25dB which would force you to really open up the gain and that usually means more noise/hissing.
The Signal LED’s (between EFX and Gain knobs) should be showing green when there’s a signal with no more than a flicker of red at any time.
According to the Manual the line inputs are TRS. It would be advantageous to use such a cable as it is balanced and therefore much less susceptible to interference (noise).
Normally, you would set the Main to 0dB (12 o’ clock) and adjust the gain to give you the Volume you need.
By the way, did you try using another input on the Peavey? It wouldn’t be the first time that a channel went “on the blink” or became defective.
Regarding the pre/post Master: Post Master would mean that you alter the level to the Peavey for the indoor system, which you may not necessarily want to do. It may be better to go pre Master, which would mean that the indoor system gets the same signal all the time (apart from when you change the individual channel volumes on the T1) and can be adjusted (on the Peavey) as and when necessary.
I’ll leave it at that for now. If you check out the things that I’ve mentioned it may be all you’ll need to do.
If not we’ll have to look elsewhere.
Please come back and tell us how you’re getting on, even if your problems have been solved. Much of what we do here relies on feedback (not the acoustic kind, of course.
Has that been helpful in any way?
Tony
Hi Bernie,
It looks like Tony and I were typing at the same time.
Here’s another thought.
Do not use a cable like this from the T1® Master Out to the Peavey Channel 8 (the two 1/4 inch inputs).
This will NOT work.
I am mentioning this because a cable like this would give you the results you described in your post (lots of noise and little sound).
ST
edit: grammar
Thanks for both of the great replies!
The. Peavey mixer you showed is correct.
Looks like I will purchase a balanced TRS cable.
New stuff to me, fun to learn. Please bare with me.
I would probably use the Pre master output. Thanks for pointing that out.
I am off to a gig now but will get something ordered this week and post a reply with my outcome. Thanks again! BT
Hi Bernie,
Just don’t be afraid to try out stuff (in a controlled “atmosphere” if the have the chance for testing other than at a gig).
If you can do “test runs” it’s better if the room is larger than e.g. a box-room as you could well encounter all sorts of problems in such a cramped acoustic space. One big problem would probably be feedback, but any EQ’ing would not sound right once you get in a gig sized room. The nearer you can get to a gig-sized room the better. If you have the chance to test in different types of room all the better. You’re bound to come across different sounding rooms if you gig in many locations.
As I said, don’t be afraid to try stuff out. You’ve already found out that there’s
by doing so. Try out other things if you can.quote:lots of noise and little sound
Amplification isn’t witchcraft, although it can appear to be very “mysterious” at times. The more you can try out in controlled situations, the less you’ll be afraid of twiddling knobs should the need arise at a gig. Once your fingers get used to moving around the T1 you’ll probably feel much more confident.
And, to finish off for now, one piece of advice that I regularly give is:
If it sounds OK, then it probably is.
Does that help?
Tony
Thanks for advice Tony, and it all helps!
I couldn’t agree more about testing and playing with equipment under a controlled environment while not performing.
The testing I was doing from the Bose to Peavey was done in my home in anticaption of a gig in 6 weeks. All the shows I am doing now will be covered by just the Bose. It would be nice to have a larger room to play with sound as you stated.
I have been exploring the T1 at home a lot. I’ve been happy with my live Sound so far. Last week I took the time to learn how to set up a noise gate for my vocal mic. I also forced the mic into feeding back a little and then figured out how to cut the problem frequency with the parade eq. Haven’t need to use these things at a gig yet but I’m glad I have a basic understanding of how to
Problem solve when gigging. Lots of cool things to keep learning with this system.
I finally ordeed a cord tonight and will post results next week with the Peavey setup.
Thanks all for the great info and advice!
Hi Bernie,
My Living room is roughly 6.5 metres by 4.25 metres. What I’ve done in the past is to run the system as loud as I can without feedback in the livingroom and then use an audio recorder. I can do this because I have a detached house. The advantage of using the higher volume is that the pure acoustic sound i.e. without amplification is reduced to an absolute minimum in the recordings, and therefore gives a truer example of the how the system sounds.
Having the detached house and the OK-sized living room means that my acoustic trio can also practice through the system should we so wish. We do this on occasion if we’ve not played amplified for a while to help with the acoustic orientation together which you lose when playing through a system in a live venue.
Is that of any further help to you?
Tony
I purchased a 1/4" balanced TRS cable and this set up works fine now.
I don’t anticipate using this set up very often, but it is nice to have the option.
Thanks for the help! Another lesson learned.
Hi Bernie,
thanks for coming back to let us know.
Please feel free come back anytime even if it’s just to let us know about any personal experiences with your system.
Tony