Can I connect the Mackie 1402VLZ4 main out puts to my ToneMatch Line in channels 4/5 on my Bose L1 Model II & B2 Bass system?
Thanks
Hi circlej2,
quote:Originally posted by circlej2:
Can I connect the Mackie 1402VLZ4 main out puts to my ToneMatch Line in channels 4/5 on my Bose L1 Model II & B2 Bass system?
Yes, that should work just fine.
You can connect your Mixing table directly to your Bose L1 system. I don’t think there is much benifit in putting the ToneMatch in between. I don’t have a ToneMatch and I’m connecting my mixing table (Allen & Heath Qu-16) with my L1 systems all the time.
Hi again circlej,
I just found your original post to which I have now replied in the other thread.
quote:Originally posted by circlj:
My brother and I play County Gospel music and we use tracks for our back up music. Bill plays the Bass and I play my acoustic Guitar.
We are thinking about up grading (and downsizing) our sound system to the L1® Model II system with B2 bass and ToneMatch®.
If you are using two microphones I would connect those directly to the T1® and use the microphone Presets.
If your acoustic guitar has a pickup in it, I would connect that to the T1® and use an acoustic guitar Preset.
If the backing tracks are coming from a computer you could run those to the T1® via USB. Note - if you do that, you will have to control the volume of the backing tracks on the computer.
That would leave channel 4 available for Bill’s Bass.
This means that you wouldn’t need to use the Mackie Mixer.
Does that sound like a workable solution for you? There are other ways to approach this if the backing tracks source is analog, but I’ll wait to hear back from you before going into all of that.
Hi Erik de Wild,
Unlike your L1® Classics, the Model II has only a single mono input. (¼ inch jack Tip-Ring-Sleeve balanced mono input).
You can connect a mono source to the Model II Power Stand Analog input, but if the source is stereo, then it’s best to use the T1® Channel 4/5.
If circlej is running stereo backing tracks (analog) and connecting that to his Mackie Mixer 1402 VLZ4 channels 7-8, 9-10, 11-12, 13-14 or Tape In connectors, then it would make sense to connect the Mackie LEFT and RIGHT outputs to T1® Channel 4/5.
quote:Originally posted by Erik de Wild:
You can connect your Mixing table directly to your Bose L1 system. I don’t think there is much benifit in putting the ToneMatch in between. I don’t have a ToneMatch and I’m connecting my mixing table (Allen & Heath Qu-16) with my L1 systems all the time.
Hi circlej,
EDIT - please my post two below with the picture of the Mackie 1402 VLZ4.
I looked up the Manual for the Mackie 1402 VLZ4.
As I said to Erik de Wild above, if you are connecting your backing tracks to
"Mackie Mixer 1402 VLZ4 channels 7-8, 9-10, 11-12, 13-14 or Tape In connectors, then it would make sense to connect the Mackie LEFT and RIGHT outputs to T1® Channel 4/5."
What you can do instead is run the backing track Left channel to Mackie input channel 7, and backing track Right channel to Mackie input channel 9. This should mix the stereo Left and Right down to the Mackie LEFT output channel.
Then you should be able to connect the Mackie LEFT output directly to the Model II Power Stand Analog input and this would completely bypass the T1®.
You would have to control the backing tracks volume with the Mackie mixer. The Master Volume on the T1® does not control the Model II Power Stand Analog input.
Does that help?
I had no idea that I was so blessed with all the input options of my Bose L1 Classic systems compared to the Bose L1 Model 2 with just one mono jack input 
I totaly agree with ST and it is actually more or less the way I deal with similar request when I have just one Bose L1 Classic system available and a external stereo source. I normally connect the external stereo source (like an iPad) with a mini jack - 2*XLR cable to channel 1 and channel 2, both channels panned in the middle. Technically that is the same as ST’s suggestion.
In my opinion using a T1 to bring RIGHT and LEFT together in one signal is an expensive way to solve a not that complicated problem.
I hope my response helps in some way.
Hi again circlej,
Here is picture of what I was describing in my previous post.
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quote:Previously posted by ST
What can you do instead is run the backing track Left channel to Mackie input channel 7, and backing track Right channel to Mackie input channel 9. This should mix the stereo Left and Right down to the Mackie LEFT output channel.
Then you should be able to connect the Mackie LEFT output directly to the Model II Power Stand Analog input and this would completely bypass the T1®.
You would have to control the backing tracks volume with the Mackie mixer. The Master Volume on the T1® does not control the Model II Power Stand Analog input.
Does that help?
Hi ST,
Sometimes we have guest that perform with us and we need more mic inputs than the T1 has to offer, we need the T1 and the extra Mic inputs from an external mixer.
The other reason I would still like to use the T1 is that I would have all the Bose Presets available to use on the T1 inputs.
We still have not purchased a “Mixer” as of yet, I was looking at the Mackie’s because of your thread I read with the advice you gave to Lou D Posts: 1067, where you explained how and why to set the MIC setting button on the back of the Mackie mixer. I was going to try to follow the advice you gave Lou D.
I prefer the Soundcraft brand of mixers better than Mackie’s. Would the information you gave for the Mackie 1402 VLZ4 work with the Soundcraft EFX8 mixer as well?
Thanks Again
Hi circlej2
I understand why you would want to use a mixer in addition to the T1®.
quote:Originally posted by circlej2:
I was looking at the Mackie’s because of your thread I read with the advice you gave to Lou D Posts: 1067, where you explained how and why to set the MIC setting button on the back of the Mackie mixer. I was going to try to follow the advice you gave Lou D.
quote:Originally posted by circlej2:
Hi ST,
I do appreciate your expertise and knowledge with the Bose products, we are just beginning to travel down this new and exciting Bose rode.
When it’s just Bill and myself playing we use two microphones my acoustic guitar (with a pickup) and Bill’s bass. We have rehearsed using the laptop connected to the USB input on the T1.
We have found that the controlling the volume on the backup tracks with the laptop is tricky at best, if all the tracks were set at the same volume it would be no problem, that is why I would like to have the laptop connected to a external mixer, it is easier to adjust the slider on the music track while performing live if need be.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Let’s set aside my previous post to Lou D as that was for a different application.
I looked up the manual for Soundcraft EFX8 and it has a balanced MONO output that should work fine when connected to the Model II Power Stand Analog input.
Here’s an excerpt from page 24 of that manual.
It looks like this should work without having to do anything specific with the pan/balance controls.
You would use a ¼ inch jack Tip-Ring-Sleeve cable like this:
from the MONO OUT highlighted above, the the Model II Power Stand Analog input.
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