OK, so if Santa brings me a T1 can anyone tell me the proper order and chain for mic and acoustic guitar into the T1 and a Vocalist Live 4? Also, an iPod for occasional backing tracks? All of this into a BBE sonic maximizer and finally the L1, model 1?
Secondarily, am I right in seeing that some folks aren’t happy with the mic stand holder for the T1? Seems like it would be nice to have control of the thing in front of me like the remote was.
Hey Wayne…I don’t have the Live4 but I figure the Helicon must be pretty similar.
1-Run your vocal mic into the T1 on ch 1. This will be your live sound for the un-harmonized lead vocal. Then run a line out from ch 1 back to the Digtk mic input. This will be used purely for harmony. (I revised my orginal post 'cos I don’t know if you can ouput the lead vocal separate to the harmonized vocals)
2-Run your guitar into the line in on the Digtk and then out on “line thru” to say ch 2 on the T1 (unless you use a guitar processor, in which case you run this line to the processor and then to the T1). This will be for your guitar signal. I’m assuming that a twist of a dial on the digtk will turn off the guitar output (similar to the TCHelicon)
3-Run a mono output from the digtk to ch 3 of the T1. This will be your multi-harmonies.
4-Ipod into ch 4 & 5 (shared) on the T1
Not sure why Mike has a stereo output going into ch4/5 for harmonies. Check with him, but I woulda used a mono to ch 3 for harmonies and used ch 4/5 for ipod.
You have the option to apply multiple effects such as reverb, delay etc on both voice and guitar at the Digtk. I would bypass all of this in favor of using the T1 effects. You can always go back and try it out either way.
As far as the BBE goes, I can’t help you there. My guess is that you may not even need it but I’m sure there’s somebody out there who’s using one and can point you in the right direction.
JD
(Edited by JD to clarify the jumble)
Hi Wayne,
Mike in Texas wrote an article about how he connects his Digitech Vocalist Live 2 through his T1®. Maybe there is something there for you.
There is a recent discussion about the BBE Sonic Maximizer. You might want to tune in on that one. Plenty of opinions there.
But if you do decide to use it, you need to know that there is no Insert Point on the T1®. You could probably wire the BBE between the T1® and the Model II Power Stand. You would have to run analog from the T1® Master to the BBE to the Model II Power Stand. A little trickier is getting power to the T1® in this arrangement. The digital ToneMatch® cable between the T1® and the Model II Power Stand carries both power and the audio signal.
If you are inserting the BBE between the T1® and the Model II Power Stand then you don’t want the audio running through the Tonematch® cable too.
There is a trick to muting the audio from the T1® through the ToneMatch® cable.
You have to go to
Prefs
Master Out Preferences
Set the Source: Pre Master Volume
I think this is the tap for the analog Master Out. You would leave the Master Volume all the way down (effectively muting the digital output for the ToneMatch® port). Then you have to control the overall volume with the BBE somehow or with the individual T1® Channel volumes. This isn’t going to be fun to do on a full-time basis, but you could do it to check out the BBE.
The other approach would be to use the optional external power supply for the T1®. You power the T1® using the power supply and you do NOT have a digital connection between the T1® and the Model II Power Stand.
Sorry, I put it in the subject box but not in the text of the message: I have an L1 model 1.
Hi Wayne,
Not your fault. I looked right at it “model i?” and somehow read "model 2"
So you will need the AC power supply for the T1®
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You could run the T1® Master Out to the BBE (cabling permitting) and from there to the Model I (or Classic) Power Stand.
As for the T1® on the microphone stand - wow that’s been as controversial as almost any other topic in the last year. See: T1® mic stand, thoughts and ideas.
I’ve been very happy with the microphone stand bracket. I have had no mishaps. I strap my cables to the microphone stand so as long as the cables are connected to the T1® it is as though I have a safety line for it.
Wayne…I revised my previous post to compensate for my lack of knowledge on the Digitech unit. Not sure about outputting the lead and harmony vocals separately.
JD
quote:I've been very happy with the microphone stand bracket. I have had no mishaps. I strap my cables to the microphone stand so as long as the cables are connected to the T1® it is as though I have a safety line for it.
The only weak point in the entire system is the ToneMatch bracket on mic stand. It is not stable at all! One quick upward force and off she qoes! In my opinion anyone who puts their tone match on a mic stand is asking for trouble sooner or later. I would not want my tone match hanging by the input cables when I needed to adjust something. I bought an xstand with a metal shelf top and Velcro'ed the tonematch "and" my wireless reciever to it. Done! no worries. "You have been warned" LOL!
Hey AJ,
Like I said, controversial.
quote:Originally posted by ST:
As for the T1® on the microphone stand - wow that’s been as controversial as almost any other topic in the last year. See: T1® mic stand, thoughts and ideas.
quote:Originally posted by AJ:
The only weak point in the entire system is the ToneMatch bracket on mic stand. It is not stable at all! One quick upward force and off she qoes! In my opinion anyone who puts their tone match on a mic stand is asking for trouble sooner or later. I would not want my tone match hanging by the input cables when I needed to adjust something. I bought an xstand with a metal shelf top and Velcro’ed the tonematch “and” my wireless reciever to it. Done! no worries. “You have been warned” LOL!
I’ve never had to the T1® come off the bracket, so it has never ended up hanging by the input cables. I acknowledge the possibility. But hasn’t happened yet.
On the other hand, I prefer to have but one stand to manage. For clumsy me, every object on the stage is another thing to knock/trip over.
quote:I bought an xstand with a metal shelf top and Velcro'ed the tonematch "and" my wireless reciever to it.
Hi AJ,
You are right that the mic stand adaptor is not for everybody. I agree with you that if there's likely to be upward motion near the T1 it's better to secure it in another manner.
A number of folks here have added their voices to yours on this issue and we are definitely paying attention.
On the other side of the coin I can say that I've produced many shows here in our 315 seat auditorium, most with bands that have never used the L1 system or the T1, and I've always felt confident in the bracket. I would say that the vibe at these shows is somewhat formal. I might feel differently if the shows were, for example, in a rowdier environment like a bar or a school.
Thanks very much for letting your thoughts known openly and without rancor.
Ken