Hi, I play in an Irish folk band, we suffer with a terrible sound on stage, apparently it sounds ok out front. We have a fiddle, mandolin, piano accordion, keyboard, bass guitar, bodhran, acoustic guitar and 4 vocals. Has anyone experience of this type of sound? Would one or two L1’s do the job?
Thanks for your help, Simon.
Hi irishhooley,
Thanks for using The Sketcher! Here is your Sketch.
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Quoting irishhooley from The Sketcher
quote:1. This is me! I play the keyboard, which currently goes through a DI box into the mixing desk, the piano accordion has a small instrument condenser mic that uses phantom power and plugs straight into the mixing desk, the vocal mic I use is a shure sm58. We dont have a multi core so rely on someone out front during sound check to tell me the levels of all the mics and instruments - not ideal at all.
2. This is the bodhran player, his vocal mic is a shure sm58, he also uses two mics for his drum, one is a kick drum mic, and the other a condenser mic.
3. This is our front man using a shure sm58, he plays the wash board which we dont mic up! The guitarist next to him on the front uses an acoustic guitar with a built in pick up, his vocal mic is also a shure sm58.
4. This is a monitor
5. This is a monitor
The other thing to note is the violinist uses his own amp which we then take a line from into the mixing desk, he also plays the mandolin.
We really struggle with a terrible sound on stage, it really is awful and a lot of the time I certainly cannot hear what Im really playing, or my vocals. The audiences tell us that the sound out front is good, but that is dependant on someone stood during sound check telling me what needs to go up/down.
We currently use a mackie speaker system, 2 bass bins with the the tops on poles. We only have two monitors.
Looking at some of your other suggestions for bands of a similiar number of musicians, I think two L1’s may do us, we need an ideal scenario, and a budget option too. Also would you suggest we move people about? We don’t have to stand where I have indicated on the sketch. Thanks very much for you time and support, SImon.
Hi again irishhooley,
Thanks for using The Sketcher! I’ve made a few changes to your Sketch (added bodhran, monitors, swapped in different numbers).
– click image to make changes to the live version –
Legend:
Green numbers are for general notes about the Sketch and connections to non-Bose gear.
Quoting irishhooley from The Sketcher
quote:1. This is me! I play the keyboard, which currently goes through a DI box into the mixing desk, the piano accordion has a small instrument condenser mic that uses phantom power and plugs straight into the mixing desk, the vocal mic I use is a shure sm58. We dont have a multi core so rely on someone out front during sound check to tell me the levels of all the mics and instruments - not ideal at all.
2. This is the bodhran player, his vocal mic is a shure sm58, he also uses two mics for his drum, one is a kick drum mic, and the other a condenser mic.
3. This is our front man using a shure sm58, he plays the wash board which we dont mic up! The guitarist next to him on the front uses an acoustic guitar with a built in pick up, his vocal mic is also a shure sm58.
4. The other thing to note is the violinist uses his own amp which we then take a line from into the mixing desk, he also plays the mandolin.
5. Bassist
6. This is a monitor
7. This is a monitor
We really struggle with a terrible sound on stage, it really is awful and a lot of the time I certainly cannot hear what Im really playing, or my vocals. The audiences tell us that the sound out front is good, but that is dependant on someone stood during sound check telling me what needs to go up/down.
We currently use a mackie speaker system, 2 bass bins with the the tops on poles. We only have two monitors.
Looking at some of your other suggestions for bands of a similiar number of musicians, I think two L1’s may do us, we need an ideal scenario, and a budget option too. Also would you suggest we move people about? We don’t have to stand where I have indicated on the sketch. Thanks very much for you time and support, Simon.
Please tell us how the Bassist is amplified.
Please tell us about the places where you perform (how big, how many people) and what the audience is doing while you are on stage.
Thanks
Hi ST, thanks for the updated sketch, the bass plugs into the desk through a DI box, he used to use a bass pedal until it broke and then into the desk. As for audiences, we play in pubs, village halls, theatre etc, In the theatre, people are sat fairly quietly (apart from singing along) listening with an audience size of approx 250, in the pubs the audience size can vary from approx 60 to maybe 200 in a large irish pub such as O’neils and it is here that they are extremely noisy. Most of our gigs are in pubs and clubs with noisy audiences (the more beer they drink, the better we sound…)Thanks for your help ST.
quote:Originally posted by ST:
Hi again irishhooley,
Thanks for using The Sketcher! I’ve made a few changes to your Sketch (added bodhran, monitors, swapped in different numbers).
– click image to make changes to the live version –
Legend:
Green numbers are for general notes about the Sketch and connections to non-Bose gear.
Quoting irishhooley from The Sketcherquote:1. This is me! I play the keyboard, which currently goes through a DI box into the mixing desk, the piano accordion has a small instrument condenser mic that uses phantom power and plugs straight into the mixing desk, the vocal mic I use is a shure sm58. We dont have a multi core so rely on someone out front during sound check to tell me the levels of all the mics and instruments - not ideal at all.
2. This is the bodhran player, his vocal mic is a shure sm58, he also uses two mics for his drum, one is a kick drum mic, and the other a condenser mic.
3. This is our front man using a shure sm58, he plays the wash board which we dont mic up! The guitarist next to him on the front uses an acoustic guitar with a built in pick up, his vocal mic is also a shure sm58.
4. The other thing to note is the violinist uses his own amp which we then take a line from into the mixing desk, he also plays the mandolin.
5. Bassist
6. This is a monitor
7. This is a monitor
We really struggle with a terrible sound on stage, it really is awful and a lot of the time I certainly cannot hear what Im really playing, or my vocals. The audiences tell us that the sound out front is good, but that is dependant on someone stood during sound check telling me what needs to go up/down.
We currently use a mackie speaker system, 2 bass bins with the the tops on poles. We only have two monitors.
Looking at some of your other suggestions for bands of a similiar number of musicians, I think two L1’s may do us, we need an ideal scenario, and a budget option too. Also would you suggest we move people about? We don’t have to stand where I have indicated on the sketch. Thanks very much for you time and support, Simon.
Please tell us how the Bassist is amplified.
Please tell us about the places where you perform (how big, how many people) and what the audience is doing while you are on stage.
Thanks