BOSE F1 SUB
I have had one now for two weeks along side my L1/B2 and I’m a house music DJ. The Bass coming out of the F1 is insane, I’m going to get another one. Im using Traktor2 with the Traktor S4 and my iMac 27. After some adjustments i was able to get some really great sound out of the F1. But what i ended up doing to get more out of the F1 was running it through a15 band EQ, and that helped a lot. And let me tell you it took a lot for me to get the clip light on. I just wanted to see what it would take to clip it. I will never play my music that loud my ears are still ringing from the deep Bass. Anyway I’m going to get another one to have a set of F1’s to go with my L1/B2. Home Run Bose!
Hi DJ Aziz Masudi,
Thanks for posting this review.
Could you tell us a little more about how you have everything connected?
I’m sure that others who have an L1 Model II and B2 will want to know more about how they work with the F1 Subwoofer.
Thank you!
ST
Well my set up is as simple as it gets. Tractor S4, 4 channel controller fully digital with my Imac 27. Im using 1/4 inch connectors all around on both the F1 and L1, and I’m running the F1 into an EQ so i can get more punch out of it. The Traktor S4 has the power to push it and it took me a little time to adjust the volume on the F1 and L1 as 12 o’clock on both units don’t mean the same thing. I did find that after playing for over an hour with the F1 at about 2 o’clock i was smelling the burn everyone talks about, and that the red clip light was flipping on and off. I then moved the volume to 12 o’clock and kept an eye on her. She continues to play fine, as i do a weekly after work party as well as play them in my home just about everyday. So with the F1 running into an EQ and i have lowered the volume on the F1 but turned the base levels on the EQ up and the punch is very good. The L1 is not as strong, but it has its place in my rig as the B2 with the line array carries sound from one end of the hall to the other. My F1 Loud speaker arrives tomorrow, and I’m sure i will get the people worked up this Friday even more. Its a solid unit and I’m sure it will hold its value and quality for a very long time. I think the two reason i went with Bose was the quality of sound and ease of use, second the looks i get at first glance then the compliments that follow once the music gets going. The house system comes on seconds after I’m done my set every week. The DJ who comes on loves my Bose set up, and the crowd always hate to see me go. It’s like taking the candy from the baby, and watching him cry about it. The two sound systems are night and day Speaker wise. We both have Digital Rigs, But what makes mine complete is the true PA sound system by Bose. Thank you very much Bose for having the vision and the know how to follow up on the things we need.
Bose for life!
I have had The L1 Classic, QC3 headphones, L1 w/ B2, F1 Sub, Sound dock, Sound dock 10, Bluetooth headset, and my wife and kids have also enjoyed your products for years.
We are a Bose family.
Just curious to why run the B2 along side?
I did a pretty extensive test, and since the B2 and F1 share similar (almost exact) frequencies, it always sounded muddier with both on since they have different voicing/tonal response.
Have you tried just running the F1?
as of today i will have the loudspeaker. I have only been running the F1 sub and i use it at this local hall where i do an after work party every friday. Both B2 and F1 are on different sides of this room and the bass evens out well. Im sure i will run into some sound balancing issues once the loud speaker is added to this equation but I’m sure i will figure it out. Both L1 and F1 are easy to handle.
You are actually not evening the bass out, in fact you are probably getting less bass as they share similar frequencies and will cancel each other out, plus they just sound so different!
If you really wanted to use the B2 in conjunction (not that I would reccomend), it would be best to put it on the same side so all of your bass comes from the same place, to avoid the power alley.
http://www.prosoundweb.com/art…_of_the_power_alley/
Hi jaswrx,
Everything I’ve read about the power alley contains a qualifying statement like this.
quote:Subwoofer cancellation is not an unusual occurrence, particularly for open-air applications. — source
Indoors the effect can be masked by reverberation. Outdoors, there is no reverberation and the cancellation is much more apparent.
Hi DJ Aziz Masudi,
I’m really looking forward to hearing your impressions about the F1 Model 812.
Thanks!
quote:Originally posted by DJ Aziz Masudi:
as of today i will have the loudspeaker. I have only been running the F1 sub and i use it at this local hall where i do an after work party every friday. Both B2 and F1 are on different sides of this room and the bass evens out well. Im sure i will run into some sound balancing issues once the loud speaker is added to this equation but I’m sure i will figure it out. Both L1 and F1 are easy to handle.
My personal experience with this phenomenon is somewhat limited as solo performances are not very bass heavy, but my knowledge gained by studying concert setups / reading / and observation suggest that different model / brand / size of sub does not affect the comb filtering for better or worse.
Subtle differences in frequency response or tonal characteristics of two different model subs will not noticeable affect the “power alley”.
In short, two different subs operating at the same overall volume from each side of the stage should not make the “power alley” any worse than two identical subs, and two identical subs will not make it disappear.
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I am not saying that mixing the subs will make the power alley worse, but will generally muddy the sound.
Point being is cancelation from running subs on opposite side.
quote:Originally posted by ST:
Hi DJ Aziz Masudi,
I'm really looking forward to hearing your impressions about the F1 Model 812.
Thanks!quote:Originally posted by DJ Aziz Masudi:
as of today i will have the loudspeaker. I have only been running the F1 sub and i use it at this local hall where i do an after work party every friday. Both B2 and F1 are on different sides of this room and the bass evens out well. Im sure i will run into some sound balancing issues once the loud speaker is added to this equation but I'm sure i will figure it out. Both L1 and F1 are easy to handle.
Me too, but seeing as Amazon dropped the ball and sent by package to Texas and not to NJ, after i yelled at them and cancelled my order, i just used an Ev top foe the party last night. Sucks, but we still had a great party.
quote:Originally posted by jaswrx:
I am not saying that mixing the subs will make the power alley worse, but will generally muddy the sound.
Point being is cancelation from running subs on opposite side.
I am a house music DJ and a EQ jockey. Dropping bass and echoes all night. So placement is very important. I know the size room and where to get the best sound from my rig. But thats why i chose Bose and got rid of all my other gear. If my sound gets muddy with Bose it was way worse with my other rig. I have stacked the B2 on the F1 and did not like the sound. But when spaced away from each other i find that with the F1 on an Eq i get great Bass response. I always place my L1 in a corner and use the wall to enhance the Bass from he B2 and with the Array coming out of a corner it just covers the room. My sweet spot varies but the end result is clean sound, hard bass, and when i pack up my rig, and the next dj comes on with the house system. Lets just say they wish i would stay or at least leave my rig. The quality of sound is so different simply said its like going from Digital to cups on a string. And when i put my rig up against most in my area, for set up and quality of sound i win hands down and I'm cool with that.
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And as for the F1 loudspeaker i will have one in house in a few days!
Hi DJ Aziz Masudi,
It sounds like you are well versed with bass performance issues. Thanks for the insights and for sharing your experiences.
ST
Been a DJ for over 25 years. In all kinds of environments. Rooms with 10 thousand people and parties in small basements too. lol! Bottom line most people don’t care as long as you play what they love to hear. It’s just a plus that the system you use can reproduce sound like Bose does. And at the end of the night i alway get love from the people i play for and they always say the system really sounds so good. So is there really anything else to say? I will update when my F1 Loud Speaker gets here.
Well i have the F1 Loudspeaker.
I have set this up and ran it by itself and then connected with the F1 sub. Like everything Bose it has great response at all range but for me and the amount that it cost i really though it would sound better. It works great with the sub but so did my powered 15 and that only cost me 600 bucks. I will be using it tonight for the first time at my weekly gig. I have not had any clipping issues, or burning smells. I have decided not to use the EQ tonight for the F1 and will just run it directly from the Traktor S4 controller. The loudspeaker adds the extra sound that was needed to balance out the F1 and L1. It took me a while to figure on sound settings once i figured out what i wanted from each unit. I think they will sound great in this Pub tonight. Will update later. Thanks.
Last nights party was a big success. And Bose F1 and L1 rocked it. Didn’t even have to really turn it up was only about 100 people but sounded great and did not have even a blip of trouble out of the F1 performed like a pro. https://www.facebook.com/edwar…s/10207020536263254/
Hi
My wish list is to add a power socket to the back of the subwoofer so I can plug in the IDC power cable to the 812 top
otherwise everything is superb