i have a Roland v-drum kit TD30 and it's located in a room inside the house....it's just for personal use....no gigs.....is a L1 compact enough? Or do I need a bigger system. Maybe I'll play with a friend with a guitar but that's it.....just family audience at the house? L1 compact is good enough? Good kick/bass drum for the room?
regards
Hi Gatodrums,
First of all let me welcome you to the forum. Thanks for joining our community.
Now to your question.
I have both a Compact and a Model II with a B1. My wife has a Roland TD6V set. I've not actually amplified her drums at all tip to now as she plays them through headphones. If she wanted me to amplify them just for once in a while I'd probably use the Compact just for the ease of setting it up. This would however probably result in the Kick Drums lacking in power in the lower frequencies. If it were to be on a more permanent basis I would more than likely set up the Model II.
You wrote: "Maybe I'll play with a friend with a guitar but that's it.....just family audience at the house? L1 compact is good enough? Good kick/bass drum for the room?"
If you're sure that you'll never want to take the drums anywhere and money is a problem, then you may be happy with a Compact. If however you at some point want to play live with the kit you may well be a bit unhappy that you made the compromise. What should sound pretty good would be a Model lS with a B2 Bass. Not nearly as cheap as a Compact but probably much more satisfying for you as a Drummer. If money's not a limiting factor, then you would probably be happier with a larger system (even maybe a Model II with a B2 Bass if you can really afford it without having to go on "bread and water" for the next few months or so).
Do you have a Bose dealer in your area so that you could maybe try out the different systems? We can all give you our own personal feelings on the subject, but it's you who has to live and be happy with what you buy.
Has this helped in any way?
Tony
Hi Tony (Seagullman),
Seagullman posted:I have both a Compact and a Model II with a B1. My wife has a Roland TD6V set. I've not actually amplified her drums at all tip to now as she plays them through headphones. If she wanted me to amplify them just for once in a while I'd probably use the Compact just for the ease of setting it up. This would however probably result in the Kick Drums lacking in power in the lower frequencies. If it were to be on a more permanent basis I would more than likely set up the Model II.
I got a pair of compacts and have been using them in my studio with my digital drums and while the kick is a little less than desired, everything else is just fine!
Seagullman posted:Hi Gatodrums,
First of all let me welcome you to the forum. Thanks for joining our community.
Now to your question.
I have both a Compact and a Model II with a B1. My wife has a Roland TD6V set. I've not actually amplified her drums at all tip to now as she plays them through headphones. If she wanted me to amplify them just for once in a while I'd probably use the Compact just for the ease of setting it up. This would however probably result in the Kick Drums lacking in power in the lower frequencies. If it were to be on a more permanent basis I would more than likely set up the Model II.
You wrote: "Maybe I'll play with a friend with a guitar but that's it.....just family audience at the house? L1 compact is good enough? Good kick/bass drum for the room?"
If you're sure that you'll never want to take the drums anywhere and money is a problem, then you may be happy with a Compact. If however you at some point want to play live with the kit you may well be a bit unhappy that you made the compromise. What should sound pretty good would be a Model lS with a B2 Bass. Not nearly as cheap as a Compact but probably much more satisfying for you as a Drummer. If money's not a limiting factor, then you would probably be happier with a larger system (even maybe a Model II with a B2 Bass if you can really afford it without having to go on "bread and water" for the next few months or so).
Do you have a Bose dealer in your area so that you could maybe try out the different systems? We can all give you our own personal feelings on the subject, but it's you who has to live and be happy with what you buy.
Has this helped in any way?
Tony
Tony
Thanks for the advise, as a matter of fact, there is a Bose dealer here (I live in Costa Rica), I will ask them if I can try both systems....they also do sell Roland V-drums (maybe no need to take my kit). I will take in consideration about going live someday and maybe buy the bigger one!!. You got me thinking on that one....!!
Thanks Steve...as Tony mentioned above....I will check with the dealer and try both...however, by little less than desired you mean disappointing or sounds ok and good but could be better??
Hi Gatodrums,
regarding this "I will take in consideration about going live someday and maybe buy the bigger one!!. You got me thinking on that one....!!"
I thought I'd throw the idea into the discussion because it would be a real shame if you went for the Compact which may well serve you acceptably (with maybe limitations on the Kick) at home, but which would probably leave you being unhappy nit you do decide to gig with it at some time. As I said already I'd probably then go with a B2 as it's cheaper than 2 B1's and can punch like 3 or 4 B1's. You'd probably also be able to "feel" the kick if you use a B2.
It's also a bonus for you having a Bose dealer nearby, especially one that sells Roland V-drums. I would think they'll let you try out the systems with the drums in the shop. After all, they're hoping to sell you something.
Just out of interest. Should you decide on a Model 1S or maybe even a Model II, would you be going directly into the analog input from the V-Drums or would you be using a T1 or other mixer? If you were to play with a guitarist you'd need a mixer anyway as there's only 1 analog input on the units (Model 1S and Model II). That's just something to think about if you go for a larger model. The Compact has a 1/4" (6.3mm) input and also 1/8" (3.5mm) and RCA inputs on channel2. If you were to go for a Compact without using a mixer you'd have to adjust the outputs on the instrument preamps themselves.
GOcsteve wrote: "I got a pair of compacts and have been using them in my studio with my digital drums and while the kick is a little less than desired, everything else is just fine!" which tends to support my feeling that the Compact could be a little lacking in bass for the Kick. The rest should be OK in a house setting.
I'll be really interested to hear what you eventually decide on and why.
Tony
ST,
regarding this: "I would be very interested in your impressions (both of you) if you connect the Roland TDV6 set to the Compact and then the Model II with the B1. If you have the time to try it out, I'd really appreciate it."
When I have the Model II out the next time I'll ask my wife if she'll play through the systems for me. The Compact is no problem to move around but the Model II is up a small spiral staircase in one part of the house and the drums (believe it or not) are set up in our bedroom, which is up another set of stairs in another part of the house. I would think that the Model II even with only 1 B1 should win the contest, but if I was going to play the drums live I would think I'd be looking at a B2 for the lower end.
Come to think of it, doesn't Pete (Drumr) have E-Drums? As a drummer with Compacts and Model II's I would have thought that he's already tried out all permutations.
Tony
Thanks again for the advice Tony....I was thinking of buying the T1 as well..even with the compact. How about the F1 812? In price is similar to the compact and that would be a good choice? Someone else just recommend me that.
regards
Hi Gatodrums,
"Thanks again for the advice Tony"
You're more than welcome.
"I was thinking of buying the T1 as well..even with the compact"
Good choice. Just don't forget that with the Compact you'll need the Power Supply for it as the Compact doesn't have a Tonematch Port.
"How about the F1 812? In price is similar to the compact and that would be a good choice? Someone else just recommend me that."
As far as the Bass response goes the F1 Model 812 should win hands down against the Compact. The 812 goes down to 42Hz whereas the Compact only goes down to 60Hz. The 812 should also be much louder than the Compact. The 812 will, however not give you the same 180° horizontal sound coverage that the L1 systems give. We're talking about 2 completely different sound systems here. The F1 system is more like a "normal" PA and with a similar type of sound coverage and sound pressures. The L1 family of products don't offer you the same high sound pressures but the sound carries much further than a "normal" PA without falling off in Volume as quickly. It depends on what you're looking for. I personally have no real experience with the F1 system as it's not something which fulfills my sound requirements. ST, who replied earlier in the thread has all the L1 and F1 models and would therefore be better qualified as regards advice on the F1 series.
Maybe you should test them all out when you visit the Bose Dealer.
Has this been of any help?
Tony