L1 Model 1 with T1 volume issue

Hello, I have read quite a few posts IRT volume issues with remote v remote removed. Unless I am misreading something, my issue appears to be unique.  So perhaps you can correct me as I have recently purchased the T-1 to go with the L1.  It appears as if the L1 goes with the last master volume input from the remote before I disconnect it from the L1 base.  For instance, if I select the volume to the 12 o'clock position on the remote (6) and then disconnect the remote cable from the L1 base, the T-1 master volume can go up to and including that volume level.  If I turn the volume all the way down on the remote and then disconnect, the T-1 master has no effect on volume. If I select the remote to the 9 o'clock (3), the T-1 master has only up that range for volume.  The simple remedy is to keep the remote plugged in but that contradicts what page 12 of the T1 manual states. Also, if the remote volume was last set at the 3 o'clock before being disconnected (9 and no I haven't a need nor do I think it would work without feedback for it in my venue!) and the T1 master set at zero and you subsequently disconnect or connect an input cable, massive popping will ensue.  As briefly mentioned, my remedy will be to keep the remote connected unless there is a work around for this.

Thanks,

LP

Hi ElPee,


On page 12 I’m reading the remote gets disconnected with the Model I turned off. This implies a default remote master volume will occur when turning on the Model I with the remote already disconnected. If you’re finding otherwise, I suggest setting the remote Master to 12 o’clock when you disconnect the remote.

The L1 wiki is a great resource for running the Model I with ToneMatch with and without the R1. Scroll about ¾ of the way down to “Connection to L1 Model I / L1 Classic with NO Remote”

http://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/inde...tle=L1®_Model_I

Thanks,
MattS-at-Bose

I tried as suggested having the remote set at 0 (7 O'clock) Midway (12 O'clock) both before powering down and then removing the R1 and removing the R1 once powered up.  When powering up and the system was set at the 12, only the trim control knob has an effect on volume. Master and Volume knobs have no bearing.  And if the trim is anything but near 0, there will be a POP regardless if Volume and Master are set to 0.  When the R1 is set to zero, and then the system is powered down and R1 removed and system powered up, the trim knob begins to show an intermittent light of green but only when near 12 (5 O'clock). That is with Volume and Master at 0, midway and full, still no audible sound. The only way I can use the Trim, Volume and Master is when the R1 is connected. As directed, I am using unbalanced cables and using input 3 and 4 during these tests.  With the R-1 connected I do not have authority on Volume or Master.  Perhaps it's a trip to the big box store and test my Tonematch on their L1.

Hi ElPee,

I'd like to clarify a couple of things.  When you use the words "trim", "master", and "volume", are you referring to the T1 ToneMatch's controls?  To be sure, is the issue that the T1's Master Volume has no effect on the level yet the T1's channel trim knob does?

You mentioned that you're using Inputs 3 and 4 on the L1.  Which output(s) are you using on the T1?  The correct output on the T1 would be just the one labeled "Master" on the lower left of the back of the T1.  If you were using the output labeled "Aux", then it's true that the T1's Master Volume knob would have no effect.

Let me know.  Looking forward to resolving this strange issue with you.

 

IRT Trim, Master and Volume, yes the T1 controls as per the manuals description. Also, irt the T1 Output, yes the Master output. 

 

Recently, I was lucky enough to be scheduled to go on a business trip where there was a big box guitar store who carries the Bose products.  They placed my T-1 in their system and ran into similar issues.  A quick swap of units and subsequent trip to back home was the remedy.  Now if I can only get rid of the POP when I turn the master power on without having to unplug either the master output cable from the T-1 or into the L-1. Even when all volumes are set to zero I get some sort of pop.  I wonder since I never got a reply from my last entry if I need to make a new entry?

Oh well.

I submitted an expansion on 02 JUN but it didn't post?! Or am I missing something?

Hello,

A quick thing to try, if you haven't already, is to turn the T1's power switch on after you turn the power stand on.  (Most people leave the T1 power switch on all the time and let the power stand control everything at once.  

Either way though, a loud pop isn't normal.  In fact, it's a best practice to turn a mixer on before a power amp to avoid pops.  Please give us a call at 877-335-2673 if you'd like us to take a look at servicing the power stand.