Lifestyle 650 Rename the device

 

Dear all,

 

 
Refer to page 13, "source setup" of the owner's guide of lifestyle 650, For sources connected to HDMI input 1 to 5 of the 650 control console,  how we can rename the device name form original name "HDMI" to the new name? 

During setup, you're offered a finite list of names for each "source." However, the list is not editable and contains curious omissions. For example, there's no way to label a source as "Phono," "Turntable," or anything else that would be appropriate for that sound source.

 

On the other hand, the list does include VCR. I'd wager that the vast majority of VCRs in the ecosytem have analog or component video out, but the Lifestyle 650 contains no analog or component video in ports.

thanks for your swift feedback.

if that so as you said, why the manual show having this function, Rename the device? see the screenshot as below,Lifestyle 650 Source setup.jpg

 

 

 

 


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thanks for your swift feedback.

if that so as you said, why the manual show having this function, Rename the device? see the screenshot as below,Lifestyle 650 Source setup.jpg

 

 I didn't say you couldn't rename your inputs. You can, but you're limited to a small pre-defined list that cannot itself be edited. So, you can rename "HDMI1" to "TV", "HDMI2" to "DVR", "HDMI3" to "AppleTV", etc., but you cannot ADD new names to the list, which does not include "Phono" or "4K Blu-Ray Player," etc.

 

My LG Smart TV allows me to rename my sources to whatever I wish to call them.

 

 


 

Noted, thanks.
For example ,If i want to rename rename “HDMI1” to “TV”. Can you guide me how i do that? due to i didn’t find this function item show on screen after I enter the setup key on REMOTE CONTROL .


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Noted, thanks.
For example ,If i want to rename rename "HDMI1" to "TV". Can you guide me how i do that? due to i didn't find this function item show on screen after I enter the setup key on REMOTE CONTROL .

 

I don't yet HAVE a Lifestyle 650. I'm thinking of migrating from the Lifestyle 35 so that I can continue to use the Bose console and its remote to coordinate my home theater. I've audtioned it in the SF showroom, and together the store assistant manager and I confirmed that there's no way to create NEW labels for any of the inputs, but it's trivial to change from the generic HDMI 2 to TV. There's a YouTube video on the Bose support site that might walk you through it but it's labeled "private" (I didn't attempt to log in there).


 

Understood. It seem that this function is not working at this moment . But , their manual of 650 was wrote that we can do it. To expect to get the BOSE company to clarify it directly or to revise their document if this 650 system don’t have this function.

Again, I'm ABSOLUTELY certain that you can change "HDMI 1" to "AppleTV" or to "DVR" or to BluRay PLayer" or to "Game Console," because those items are on the embedded list. What I cannot understand is why they've not made the list itself editable by the user. 

I would like do it. But,unfortunately current version of lifestyle 650 cannot do that. 


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I would like do it. But,unfortunately current version of lifestyle 650 cannot do that.

 

Have you gotten confirmation from Bose that this is broken?

 

I'm as certain as I can be that you're wrong. I saw input names changed with my own eyes in the SF retail store. Unless there's a firmware update you've missed or that has wrecked the function that the SF store has not applied to its own devices, it's just a matter of following the directions correctly.

 

Have you watched the You Tube video accessible from Bose's support site?

 

This is NOT new technology. It was available on the Lifestyle 28 I bought over a decade ago, and IS available on the Lifestyle 35 I'm using now. I just renamed my own inputs on my own Lifestyle 35 a week or two ago (not to the names they deserve, because, inexplicably, Bose won't let me edit the list), but at least I'm not saddled (nor is the Lifestyle 35 in the SF retail store) with HDMI 1, HDMI 2, etc.


 

This function is real not available on lifestyle 650 system and already confirmed from local BOSE sales people. The current firmware in my lifestyle 650 is a latest new one after checked on BOSE site and local BOSE sales people too . I think that BOSE is made a big mistook to copy other type manual into this new lifestyle 650 manual. Too many parameters are unavailable to apply this new lifestyle 650 system. Thank you very much to for your professional comments feedback.

I had reason to call Bose today (setting up my Harmony Elite remote and having some trouble pairing it with my Lifestyle V35 system. I spoke to the Lifestyle 650 support staff, asked them if there were known issues with choosing from among the available list items to redesignate the HDMI inputs, and they categorically denied having received any such reports. Moreover, they told me that what I regarded as an issue (not being able to create NEW labels not on their default lists) was something they were looking towards implementing in a firmware update. They promised nothing, but they did say that if you called them they were certain they'd be able to help you change a label like HDMI 1 to something like TV, or DVR, or gaming console, or anything else that's already on their default list of choices.

I had escaladed this issue to BOSE local sales on middle of May. it's seem that local sales of TAIWAN is not escaladed this issue to BOSE support team of headquarter. Due to my home location is not in USA. so, it's difficult to cal them directly. Can you helps again to ask them when this function will be available? Thank you !

The Bose Retail Store in San Francisco just opened for the day, and I spoke with Jeffrey, the assistant manager. He assured me:

  1. The routines that permit relabeling of the "Source" items are NOT broken, either in systems designated for the US market or for those sold elsewhere.
  2. He has customers who've purchased Lifestyle 650 systems and had them shipped to Taiwan and China who have had no trouble with the relabeling routines.
  3. He suggested I ask you to make certain you have the latest firmware.
  4. He suggested that if you have your user interface configured in US English it's possible that may be confounding your efforts to do so properly.
  5. He says that the System can be configured to use Chinese (I did not ask him which dialects) as its interface language.

Again, Jeffrey INSISTED that it is ABSOLUTELY not the case that relabeling the source inputs is currently non functional on the Lifestyle 650.

 

He suggested you may wish to call a US or British retail store for advice. The San Francisco Retail Store's telephone number is 415-348-0382

1. Unfortunately, i'm still not fund this function in device management after changed the user interface configured in US English, The only two section "Add" and "Remove" can be selected in device management( sea screenshot name P3_Device Management as below:)


2. More attached screenshots for your reference too, included system firmware version:

P2_UNIFY LIST-2 P3_Device Management P4_Consol System Info P5_Remote control System Info


My ability to help you with this problem is limited because I don't own a Lifestyle 650. The things I can tell you for certain are:

  1. One is supposed to be able to change the designations for "source" equipment that appear on the little window on the remote from generic to more useful appelations; e.g., "Apple TV" instead of HDMI 3.
  2. The list of more specific names is confined to a pre-defined set offered by Bose, and it includes some strange inclusions ("VCR", when there's no analog video input) and omissions ("Turntable" when there ARE classical RCA plug analog audio inputs).
  3. It works as defined, but I cannot give you a step-by-step instruction list (see my first paragraph).
  4. I do know I was able to accomplish this when I first set up my Lifestyle V35, and to change my own list recently when I repurposed my V35 to become an audio-output slave to my TV.
  5. I also know that Bose factory support (based in the Philippines), and the assistant manager of the retail store in San Francisco both confirm that the input name editing actually does work, and both of those sources stated fairly emphatically that they were unaware of any firmware version issues that had even temporarily disabled that capability.

 

I have only two input sources now: a TOSLINK optical cable and my turntable. I don't NEED a specific name for the TOSLINK, because it handles ALL audio sources that originate from the TV. I've given a name to the analog 1 input. The remote permits me to switch between two names, but those labels don't really make sense for what's plugged into them.

 

Sorry I can't be of more help than that. I suspect that the sequence of steps is similar to what I would be going through were I to try to replicate your task, but to revisit the issue I'd have to remove my 50 pound television set from the wall just to plug in an HDMI input cable from the Bose HDMI "out" port (which would itself require lots of physical contortions inside a cabinet infested with a tangled mess of other cables). As things are now, with all 3 of the HDMI ports on the TV occupied by 4K video output sources (TiVo, 4K BluRay player, and Apple TV--OK, that last one is NOT 4K) I don't have the ability to view the Bose "Unity" or "Unify" setup on my TV screen.

 

Good luck! I'm pretty certain you'll figure it out.

Hi Sir,
1. Thank you so much for your swift feedback. Can you helps to forward my send all info to you knew Bose Retail Store in San Francisco? and wait what answer we can get from them? thanks.
2. In generally, of course we can choice anyone device name from predefined device name list when we start up to configure/add our new device into BOSE Lifestyle system. But, we cannot change this predefined device name to the properly device what we wanted. And BOSE OWNER’S GUIDE manual of lifestyle 650 system was told us we can do that. That’s why I post this issue to all and expecting to anyone who can help on this. thanks.


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Hi Sir,
1. Thank you so much for your swift feedback. Can you helps to forward my send all info to you knew Bose Retail Store in San Francisco? and wait what answer we can get from them? thanks.
2. In generally, of course we can choice anyone device name from predefined device name list when we start up to configure/add our new device into BOSE Lifestyle system. But, we cannot change this predefined device name to the properly device what we wanted. And BOSE OWNER'S GUIDE manual of lifestyle 650 system was told us we can do that. That's why I post this issue to all and expecting to anyone who can help on this. thanks.

 

I've wondered ever since I joined this thread whether there might be language translation misunderstandings here, so forgive my attempt to clarify.

 

I don't have at my disposal the predefined list of source names Bose provides us. Let's say it contains 10 items, and that they consist of the following:

  1. VCR
  2. DVD
  3. BluRay DVD
  4. Apple TV
  5. Comcast DVR
  6. DirecTV DVR
  7. TiVo DVR
  8. VHS VCR
  9. iPad
  10. xBox

 

Let's say that we rename HDM1 to TiVo DVR. Later, we come back because we'd like to change it to DirecTV DVR. That would work. HOWEVER, if we wanted to change it to a name not in the list; e.g, "Smart TV embedded apps," that would not work, because that name is not in Bose's canned list.

 

If what you're trying to say is that you're unable to change HDMI 1 from "TiVo DVR" to "Comcast DVR" that should work, because Comcast DVR is in the default list.

 

As I recall, there are things a user might do that remove items from the default list, but I don't remember what steps are needed to do that. I think it involves not including one or more of the inputs in the list of items considered for renaming (so that you won't need to scroll through inputs that have no attached devices.

 

Again, one cannot rename a Source input to a name that was not included in the original list provided by Bose before the user began configuration setup.