I've tried several ways to setup my 3 Behringer microphones connect to channel 1, 2, & 3 of T1 ToneMatch, keyboard to channel 4 & 5 and output of T1 to two Bose L1 compact speakers for live band singing. However, I've never been satisfied with the sounds as far as quality and effects output. Can someone help or show me how to set the T1 to achieve the best result in my case. Thanks in advance!
Hi Phamily,
You wrote, " I've never been satisfied with the sounds as far as quality and effects output. "
Please tell us more about what you are hearing and why it is unsatisfactory for you.
And then I've got some questions for you.
What model of Behringer microphones are you using?
What ToneMatch Preset are you using for the microphones?
What effects are you using?
How are you connecting the T1® to the two L1® Compacts?
How far apart are the L1® Compacts?
How large is the room in which you are performing?
Thank you.
ST
ST posted:Hi Phamily,
You wrote, " I've never been satisfied with the sounds as far as quality and effects output. "
Please tell us more about what you are hearing and why it is unsatisfactory for you.
Effects such delay, echo, reverb etc doesn't sound good!
And then I've got some questions for you.
What model of Behringer microphones are you using? Xm8500
What ToneMatch Preset are you using for the microphones? Vocal Mics
What effects are you using? Chorus1
How are you connecting the T1® to the two L1® Compacts? From Master & Aux outputs to line input of l1 compact
How far apart are the L1® Compacts? About 6ft
How large is the room in which you are performing? About 1000sf
Thank you.
ST
Please see answer above! Thanks.
Hi Phamily,
I am sorry it took so long to get back to you. I lost track of this one.
Please work with me here. I'm going ask you to set up your system for a single microphone with a single L1® Compact in a very specific way. Then run that in your 1000 square foot performance space and tell us what you hear.
That will be the basis for some recommendations.
1. Connect one microphone to T1® Channel 1. No need to connect to an L1® Compact yet.
2. Set the gain staging by following this video.
3. Set the Preset to
Category: Vocal Mics
Preset: Handheld Mics
4. Connect the T1® Master output to one L1® Compact channel 2. Use a 1/4" Tip-Ring-Sleeve cable.
- Set the ToneMatch switch to Line Level (switch is down).
- Set the channel 2 volume straight up (12 o'clock).
On channel 1 turn the volume off.
That's all the basics.
More coming.
Turning off zEQ, ParaEQ, and effects
For the purposes of your initial listening, you'll want to turn off the EQ and Effects. You can use then to fine tune things later. Here's how you turn them off for now.
For each T1® Channel (using the CH Edit Button) you will want to do the following steps. It looks more complicated than it is. This should take a minute or less for each Channel, and then you are starting with a clean slate.
- zEQ
Turn the Rotary Selector to zEQ
Press the buttons under the display to bypass on all bands.
- Para EQ
Turn the Rotary Selector to ParaEQ
Press the left most button under the display to bypass it.
- Comp/Gate
Turn the Rotary Selector to Comp
Press the left most button under the display to bypass it.
- Mod
Turn the Rotary Selector to Mod
Press the left most button under the display to bypass it.
- Delay
Turn the Rotary Selector to Delay
Press the left most button under the display to bypass it.
- Reverb
Turn the Rotary Selector to Reverb
Press the left most button under the display to bypass it.
Reverb
Listen to the system with the reverb bypassed at first. Give yourselves time to hear how you really sound through the L1® before you add reverb. In your performance space, turn up the volume and listen for the natural reverb in the room.
How does your voice sound through the microphone?
Try different Presets until you find one you like better than others.
When you've found one you like, you can fine tune the sound with the zEQ.
If want to add a little reverb, you can go back in and add some.
Use the Mix parameter to set the amount of reverb to apply.
Do this sparingly and when you get into larger, reverberant spaces, you will need little or no reverb at all.
If you are using reverb, then experiment with different Reverb Types. You don't have to pick a specific Channel. This setting is global to all Channels.
ST
Thanks much for the response and advise! I will try to follow your instructions shortly and keep posted.
Thanks again!
At this point, you should have a good basic sound for one microphone. Try the different effects one by one.
Please come back and tell us what you hear.
Two L1® Compacts
Don't add the second L1® Compact until you have found a good sound with just one.
When you've got good sound with one L1® Compact connect the first L1® Compact Line Out to the second L1® Compact. Use a 1/4" Tip-Ring-Sleeve cable.
Note: You will probably to set the volume on the second L1® Compact lower than on the first. That's normal.
For best results, you want 15-20 feet between the two L1® Compacts.
So far ok. Do I need to use or add delay and other features such as paraEQ, Comp/Gate, Mod...?
Hi Phamily,
Are you set up in your 1000 square foot room? I would not add paraEQ, Comp/Gate, Mod... until you are happy with the sound that you get with a ToneMatch preset and some fine tuning with the zEQ. You probably won't have to do anything with ParaEQ.
Here is a video to show you how to set the T1® ToneMatch Presets, zEQ, and ParaEQ. You may not hear the differences in sound that I'm discussing in the recording, but follow along on your T1® and you'll be able to hear them in your environment.
Overview Notes:
The way the Presets, zEQ and ParaEQ work together ...
- Set the Preset first.
- Adjust with zEQ if necessary.
- If you still want to modify the EQ to solve problems or do things that you couldn't with zEQ, then use the ParaEQ.
Longer explanation
The zEQ is your basic three band equalizer (Low Mid High), but it's smarter than most because the actual frequencies affected by Low, Mid, High are changed to match the Preset you are using.
You can read more about that here: zEQ
If you've adjusted the sound with the zEQ and you still need to adjust the EQ then use the ParaEQ. You can read more about how that works and how you can use it here: ParaEQ and note the links at the bottom of that article for related information.
Let me explain how these things work together to affect the sound of an input by walking you through how I do things for a new source.
When setting up a new source (e.g. new microphone)
- Set all the zEQ settings to Bypass
- Set ParaEQ to Bypass
- Mute all effects (use the FX Mute button or go through all the effects and set them to bypass)
At this point, the only thing that can affect/alter the sound is a Preset. - Select the best Preset for the source. I start with the best match by name, e.g. If I'm using a Shure Beta 58, then use that Preset. If there isn't a Preset then I will audition other Presets until I find one that sounds good.
- THEN use the zEQ to fine-tune the sound if required.
- If the sound still needs some help the use the ParaEQ to solve problems. See ParaEQ for details.
- After I've got things sounding great with the Preset, zEQ if necessary, ParaEQ if necessary, then I might add some effects like Delay or Reverb.
ST
Thanks ST! I will need to read more info from the links you sent to get better understanding before continue play with it.
Thanks again!