I currently have a Bose L1 1s w/B2 module and T1 ToneMatch….I would like to add more channels. I know there’s the T8S available but have read bad reviews. I considered buying another T1 or T4s to daisy chain to add more inputs. What are the pros and cons and how do I accomplish this. I don’t want to break the bank but love the Bose sound and ease of use.
I’m also currently trying to use a Taylor guitar with ES-2 system that doesn’t afford the volume that I get with my older Taylors…should I be using a Direct box in conjunction with the T1?
I have a T8s and I love it. I had seen the reviews but most of the complaints seemed like operator error to me. I play my Martin D-38 direct through the T8s using the tone match and it sounds great. Same with my banjos and ukulele. I am also using two L1 model 1s with a B2 bass and two B1 Basses. I love the sound so I am adding two F1s for large venues.. Anything requiring more than that always has a professional sound company. Good luck whatever you decide.
You are welcome. It was really hard for me to step up and pay the premium for Bose equipment. After playing 40 plus years with an adequate PA I finally did it and it is an amazing difference. Now, I sound as good in a 200 seat venue as I do in a 2000 seat venue with pro sound. It sure makes singing a lot more fun. Good luck.
I currently have a Bose L1 1s w/B2 module and T1 ToneMatch….I would like to add more channels.
What inputs do you have?
e.g.,
Vocal microphone (make/model)
Vocal microphone (make/model)
Taylor guitar with ES-2
Mandolin with LR Baggs Para DI
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Stereo backing tracks from a computer
I know there’s the T8S available but have read bad reviews.
There have been several firmware updates for the T8S (and T4S). Many of the concerns that were raised in reviews have now been addressed.
I considered buying another T1 or T4s to daisy chain to add more inputs.
Yes, you can daisy chain another T1 or T4S or T8S.
Your L1 Model 1S can support two ToneMatch mixers. For example:
Two T1s
One T1 and one T4S
One T1 and one T8S
What are the pros and cons and how do I accomplish this.
Please tell us about your inputs (question above), so we can talk about the pros and cons in a meaningful way.
As you may know, the big difference between the T1 and the T4S/T8S is
The T1 is a mono device
The T4S/T8S are stereo devices
This is relevant if you will have two powered loudspeakers (e.g., two L1 Model 1S systems)
Are you thinking about getting a second powered loudspeaker? This could change the cost/benefit discussion about getting another T1 compared to getting a T4S or T8S
I don’t want to break the bank but love the Bose sound and ease of use.
I’m also currently trying to use a Taylor guitar with ES-2 system that doesn’t afford the volume that I get with my older Taylors…should I be using a Direct box in conjunction with the T1?
We discussed your Taylor guitar with the ES-2 system in this discussion.
3 - Mandolin or Lapsteel through Baggs Para Acoustic DI
4 - Taylor 314ce w/ES-2 pickup
If you're having a problem with low-volume using the Taylor 314ce w/ES-2 pickup - try running it into T1 channel 3. The LR Baggs Para Acoustic DI should be fine using T1 channel 4. Note: You will need to set the trim controls on channels 3 and 4 after you swap the inputs. Play the instruments as loud as you will while performing and set the trim controls so you see solid green with occasional flickers of yellow.
We play in small bars with more than ample headroom...the possibility exists for adding another L1 1s down the road.
If you add a second L1 later, it should be simpler to make the transition if you have a T4S or T8S because they have left and right outputs.
Taylorman posted:
also...when Input 3 is being used, input 1 isn't.
Back to your original question.
Taylorman posted:
I currently have a Bose L1 1s w/B2 module and T1 ToneMatch….I would like to add more channels.
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It looks like you have inputs for everything with your T1 (although I would split the three vocal microphones into separate channels for better control). Are you planning to add more inputs? Even if you aren't here's how I would approach things. I've made an assumption that you have three performers who are both sing and play an instrument.
T8S
I group singers and their instruments in pairs but you don't have to do it that way.
Sennheiser e935 vocal microphone
Taylor 814ce w/ ES 1.3 pickup / sometimes Taylor K24ce w/ ES-2
Sennheiser e935 vocal microphone
Mandolin or Lapsteel through Baggs Para Acoustic DI
Sennheiser e935 vocal microphone
Taylor 314ce w/ES-2 pickup
Spare input for future use
Spare input for future use
If you get a T8S,
You can control everything with one mixer
You won't need the T1
OR
T4S
Connect the T4S directly to the L1 Model 1S Power Stand using the ToneMatch Port (the way you are connecting the T1 now).
I group singers and their instruments in pairs but you don't have to do it that way.
Sennheiser e935 vocal microphone
Taylor 814ce w/ ES 1.3 pickup / sometimes Taylor K24ce w/ ES-2
Sennheiser e935 vocal microphone
Mandolin or Lapsteel through Baggs Para Acoustic DI
T1
Connect the T1 directly to the L1 Model 1S Power Stand using the Analog Input Trim. You will need a T1 ToneMatch® Audio Engine Power Supply because you will no longer be able to draw power for the T1 from the L1 Model 1S Power Stand
Sennheiser e935 vocal microphone
Taylor 314ce w/ES-2 pickup
Spare input for future use
Spare input for future use
If you get a T4S
Control over the sound is split across two mixers
Personally I don't mind this
You will still need the T1 and you have to get ToneMatch power supply
Alternative approach
Connect the T1 Master Output to the T4S channel 5 aux input. This would give you one master volume for all the inputs on the T4S.
One More Option (a second T1)
You can get a second T1 instead of a T4S.
If you can find a T1 it should cost less than a T4S because the T1 is discontinued
There's no learning required with a second T1. Although the T4S is so similar to the T1, there's not much more to learn
A T4S/T8S has more options for controlling the tone (3-band ParaEQ. The T1 has single band ParaEQ
It does help...looks like I'm going with the T8....what cable do I need 1/4" trs to XLR or 1/4" trs to 1/4" trs? Where do I connect these? ....and thank you
