I have been using zoom live with T1 tonematch but I am not getting good sound. It seems there are few effects are supressed.
Here are my connections. I am using T1 with L1 Model II with B2. T1 USB out to MacBook Pro for Zoom session. Channel 1 and 2 microphones. Channel 4/5 to iPad Pro for backing track.
Any help is appreciated.
Hello shaime,
The default Zoom settings concentrate on using as little bandwidth as needed for good meetings, in the normal speech range. There are some Zoom options that you can tweak to increase the bandwidth and quality of your outgoing signal (sorry, I don't know where they're located off the top of my head -- I'll find them when I get a chance.)
Also -- do you have a problem sending a hot enough signal to your MacBook Pro without blasting yourself out with the L1 Model 2? If not, great! If so, you may need to get a ToneMatch power supply to power your T1 instead of using the ToneMatch cable, then use a TRS-TRS cable from the 1/4" master out to connect to your Model II. Then you can turn down the input on the Model II to make the volume bearable. Alternatively, you can set up an Aux mix on your T1 to send to your Model II so you can control your Zoom and L1 mixes and volumes separately. (The only problem with that is the lack of reverb on Aux.)
Does that help?
Thank you for the reply.
Yes, I am aware of all zoom setting and I don't have any issue sending signals to my MacBook Pro, I have problem listening to others on zoom. Their voice is blasting through my L1. I have to turndown the master volume so that I can listen others.
So the way I am connecting everything should have all the effects?
Hello shaime,
"Their voice is blasting through my L1." I'm assuming you are returning sound to your T1 via USB (since you have all four channels on your T1 are otherwise occupied.) If your PC-to-USB is routed to Master, you have to reduce the playback volume on your MacBook Pro to reduce the signal coming back from the other participants. If you have your PC-to-USB routed to Channel 4/5, you can either use the MacBook Pro volume, or use the Channel 4/5 volume control. However, you'll probably have to turn it back up when playing backing tracks from you iPad Pro.
One other idea would be to get a 1/8" to XLR interface (such as the RapcoHorizon LTIGBLOX) and run your iPad Pro into Channel 3, and your PC-to-USB to Channel 4/5. This way you have a separate volume for the Zoom participants. The LTIGBLOX sums the iPad's stereo 1/8" signal to mono, but that won't matter as the T1 is a mono device anyway.
"So the way I am connecting everything should have all the effects?" Yes, the USB-to-PC routing includes all effects. However, I've found that those on the listening end might not get the full experience -- what you hear from your L1 is greatly more pronounced that what they hear on the other end of the internet. For this reason, you might test by increasing your effects to where they're too much for you, but may finally be discernable on the other end. The results will vary depending on the quality of the recipient's device, speakers/headphones, internet speed, and Zoom settings. (I don't know if Zoom tries to remove reverb on the listener's end in an attempt to "clean up" any digital "artifacts", i.e., thinking that reverb is "noise introduced by the internet." That would interesting to find out.)
Does that help?
Thank you so much for the help.
In iPad there is a setting to change sound to mono instead of stereo. That's how I have been connecting my iPad Pro to one of the channel in T8S in order for me to control volume. It's just that I am not happy with the changes in Bose has made in T8S. I still prefer T1 over T8S.
I can connect iPad to one of the channel in T1 and will route PC-to-USB to Channel 4/5.
So everything is working fine with this new setup except there is one issue. When I was singing sound level (vocal and effects) was perfect. Everyone was happy. But when I was talking everyone were complaining that my voice is very feeble and they can hardly hear me. I had increased trim setting and channel volume both but still everyone were still complaining.
Any suggestion on what I could have done differently?
Hi again Shaime,
Glad to hear most everything is mostly sorted out.
I totally understand what your are referring to ... the "drive" of a singing voice is much stronger than a talking voice. I became very conscious of that when I watched a video of a performance by my wife and I. Whenever we would speak to tell a joke, make a comment, or set up a song, our voices tended to "fall off" very quickly. I've since paid attention to other acts to see how they handle it.
I've noticed a number of singing groups in the Southern Gospel music genre, where one member of the group discreetly turns off all vocal effects whenever someone is talking, at a mixing board on stage, via a footswitch, or with an iPad remote controlling the board. The speaker "eats" the mic and speaks louder than normal as we are taught to do to discourage feedback. When the music starts again, that group member turns the vocal effects on again (and they have evidently rehearsed it.)
To emulate this, I have tried to remember to hit the FX Mute button for my vocal channel, speak louder than I normally would, and turn the FX Mute off gain when ready to sing. I don't always remember, but I've had friends listen specifically for that and they said it makes a big difference.
I'm not saying this relates directly to a Zoom live, but might be worth a shot. It's all a learning experience!
For years I have been doing same. When I sing I have all the effects on but as soon as stop singing I mute all the effects. I never had any issue in front of live audience. They can hear talking voice clearly with effects muted. It’s the streaming that’s causing the issue. Interestingly other people on zoom call has no such issues. They don’t use L1 or tonematch. Most of them are using usb mixer with headphones.
Any other suggestion that I should try?